The third annual ‘Pay It Forward’ Charity Drive will be held this Sunday, Aug. 21st, from 10 a.m. – 3 p.m. at 2108 SW 152nd Street in Burien’s Seahurst neighborhood.

This is a FREE event where residents can donate items, non-perishable food and more to help local people in need.

It will also serve as a benefit for various local causes, including victims of the recent Lighthouse Apartment Fire.

Organizers are seeking non-perishable food items, sheets, blankets, pillows, towels, cleaning supplies, toothbrushes, baby items, children’s items, back-to-school items, toiletries, clothes and pet supplies.

And, “….there will be live music and generous treats from local restaurants on site for each donor!!” reads a note on the event’s Facebook Pag.

Sponsors include The Bean, Grand Central Bakery, Hey Paison!, B-town Burgers and Shakes, and The Tin Room.

Here’s more info from the event’s Facebook Page:

It’s that time again! Time for the 3rd annual Pay it forward-For FREE charity drive.

Got stuff???

This charity drive is designed to help connect the items/non perishable food your family is no longer using with local people that need those items.

**Lighthouse Apartment Fire Update** We are going to be donating any gently used mens clothing, household items, sheets, linens and anything else you would use to rebuild a household to the victims of this fire who lost everything when their home burnt to the ground a few weeks ago.

So, go clean out your CUPBOARDS AND CLOSETS and bring any usable items to 2108 SW 152nd street on Sunday August 21st from 10-3.

~~BONUS~~

There will be live music and generous treats from local restaurants on site for each donor!!

Sponsors include: The Bean, Grand Central Bakery, Hey Paison!, B-town Burgers and Shakes, and the Tin Room.

I’m sure if you looked through your kitchen and house you would be surprised at how many items you will find that you know your family will never use. So, clean out your closets and cupboards and don’t let all those usable goods go to waste!

Hope for Robin will be holding a car wash (with help from the local firefighters!) and THE BRAMBLES will be playing live music!

What we need: NON PERISHABLE FOOD, SHEETS, BLANKETS, PILLOWS, TOWELS, CLEANING SUPPLIES, TOOTHBRUSHES, BABY ITEMS, CHILDRENS ITEMS, BACK TO SCHOOL ITEMS, TOILETRIES, CLOTHES and PET SUPPLIES.

All of the items donated will go to support LOCAL charities:

• AARF
• Highline Food Bank
• Jubilee
• Westside Baby
• Treehouse for Kids
• Hope for Robin
• Seattle’ Union Gospel Mission FBO-Lighthouse Apartment fire victims

PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE WORD BY FORWARDING THIS OUT TO OTHERS!!!!

Help us make this a lot of fun and a great success! If you have any questions feel free to email them to me.

Thank you!

~Janice Hammond

janice@sunrisefinancialser?vices.net

by Ralph Nichols

A $10 vehicle license fee was adopted on June 21 by the Burien Transportation District to fund a 20-year, $19.4 million program to restore and maintain city streets.

The action came on a 4-3 vote by the city council, sitting as the board of commissioners for the transportation district, following a public hearing.

This program, including the fee, was approved by the council in April, but state law required that final action be taken by the transportation district commission.

Mayor Joan McGilton, Deputy Mayor Rose Clark, and council members Jack Block Jr. and Kathy Keene voted for the fee on vehicles registered in the city.

Council members Brian Bennett, Lucy Krakowiak and Gordon Shaw opposed it.

The affirmative vote also provided that the boundary of the city wide district will expand to include any future annexations by Burien.

Only two residents testified during the public hearing: Ed Dacy, who supported the fee-based program as an investment in the city’s future; and former councilman Stephen Lamphear, who opposed the action.

The $10 license fee will help fund 2-inch asphalt overlays and related repairs on more than 260 miles of city streets to restore and maintain city streets at an average Pavement Condition Index level of 80 percent. The current average condition of local streets is 68 percent.

McGilton said prior to the vote that with the lack of state and federal funds, “the only funding source remaining to us is our city. Ten dollars is a reasonable amount to pay for those of us who use the roads in Burien.”

The $10 fee will help fund 2-inch asphalt overlays and related repairs on more than 260 miles of Burien streets.

Block called it “a good investment that has a good payback,” while Keene called it “good policy” that “brings our roads up to the standards we want … unlike our sister city to the north.”

Lamphear’s remarks echoed his recent comments in a letter to The B-Town Blog (link here) that the hearing is “a time and money waster.”

In that letter, he criticized “the arrogance of the Imperial Burien City Council” for thumbing “their collective noses at the 75% of voters who voted NO on this license fee last year.”

The Transportation Benefit District was adopted by the city council in July 2009, which proposed at that time bicycle and pedestrian improvements along 8th Avenue S. and S/SW 136th Sts. – to be funded through an annual vehicle license fee of $25.

But last fall, this license fee proposal was rejected by 75 percent of those voting in the city election.

Although state law requires a Transportation Improvement District commission to hold a public hearing when fees are imposed, it does not require a vote on fees at a basic $10 level.

Asked about Lamphear’s complaint by The B-Town Blog prior to Monday’s meeting, the Mayor flatly rejected it.

“I don’t think the community felt obligated just to do 136th Street and 8th Avenue,” McGilton said, referring to the limited scope of last year’s ballot issue compared to the new program.

To residents, asphalt-overlays throughout the city “means the street by my house,” she said.

And the $10 fee for this program to improve all city streets is much less than the $25 fee that was proposed for bicycle and pedestrian improvements only.

“We’re paying it forward,” McGilton continued. “Ten dollars per car is a good investment in 20 years of drivable roads. This is a road program that will be paid for by everybody who lives in the city and drives on our roads.”

The $10 fee will generate about $300,000 annually for ongoing asphalt overlays. Funds for the initial $8.6 million phase of the project, expected to start this summer and continue through 2011, will come from bonds issued by the city.

McGilton noted that this is the third year the city has not been able to pay for asphalt overlays through its general fund.

This program “shows vision,” she added. “It’s doing something good for the community rather than just doing what gets us re-elected.”

by Ralph Nichols

Will $10 – or $20 – vehicle license tab fees be coming to Burien soon?

City council members agree that an ongoing street maintenance program is needed – beginning soon – to keep Burien’s streets in good condition and to avoid the far costlier process of rebuilding them later.

They also concur, reluctantly, that with a pared-down city budget, which has put asphalt-overlay projects on hold for the last two years, the only way to pay for it is with a special revenue package just for roads.

But no sitting city council can tell future councils how to spend money, and that reality concerns this group of lawmakers. They want to insure that all special revenue for roads goes, without exception, to roads and isn’t tapped for other programs in the future.

With this in mind, council members moved closer on April 12 to giving a green light to a Transportation Benefit District (TBD) in Burien that would help pay for the asphalt overlay program – and perhaps provide some matching funds for a freeway off-ramp to the Northeast Redevelopment Area as well.

Revenue raised through TBD license tab fees can be used only for the transportation purposes designated when the district was created.

With 35,745 registered vehicles in Burien, including newly annexed North Burien, which will be included in the proposed 20-year asphalt overlay program, a $20 fee would generate an estimated $636,966 annually, a $10 fee $381,483, and a $5 fee $159,242, City Finance Director Tabatha Miller told lawmakers.

Proposed by City Manager Mike Martin and Public Works Director Larry Blanchard, the ambitious program would cost $19.4 million over the next 20 years. Without it, they have said, streets will deteriorate and require repairs that cost 5 to 10 times as much routine maintenance.

An asphalt overlay of just 2 inches can keep a good street in good condition, Blanchard noted. That is the aim of this plan, which would maintain Burien’s road system at an average Pavement Condition Index of 80 percent. Currently, city streets average 68 percent on that index.

The program, as proposed to the council, would cost Burien $8.6 million to upgrade those streets that are in the worst condition, yet can still be upgraded with overlays, during the balance of 2010 and in 2011. Beginning in 2012, the ongoing overlay program would continue at a cost of $600,000 annually.

By contrast, the cost of completely rebuilding deteriorated streets is around $231 million at current construction costs, Blanchard added.

Miller has recommended paying for the maintenance project with Build America Bonds with annual bond payments of $650,000. She said the total investment including bond payments from 2010 forward would cost the city $1.25 million.

Based on her initial suggestions for additional revenue sources, combined with priorities recommended by council members on March 29, most of the annual $1.25 million payment could come from $750,000 in operating savings with the city assuming surface water management and transportation services from King County, $100,000 in property tax from the Capital Reserve Fund, $100,000 in Seattle City Light in-lieu fees.

The remaining $300,000 could come from annual $10 license tab fees established by a TBD.

Councilman Brian Bennett wondered what the new residents in North Burien think about the proposed fees, and then asked if it is possible to reduce the estimated cost by reducing the scope of the asphalt-overlay program.

While costs always can be reduced, Martin replied, the corresponding reduced maintenance will result in the gradual deterioration of some streets.

Mayor Joan McGilton likened this approach to applying a coat of primer to a house without adding the main coat of paint. That, added Blanchard, would push the higher costs of rebuilding roads onto future users of city streets.

Councilman Jack Block Jr. expressed concern about the lack of an inflation factor in the 20-year cost projection, which Blanchard said was left out to avoid complicating the calculations. But, he suggested, the same inflationary factors that would increase long-range costs would also increase projected revenues.

Block also said while a $10 license tab fee would be a “reasonable cost,” $20 could be too much because “people are having issues right now. We need to be cautious in the fees we ask the citizens to pay.”

SW 158th between Ambaum Blvd. and First Ave South.

Although Councilman Gordon Shaw said he liked “the program before us with $10 car tab fees,” another $10 could be used in the future toward an off-ramp that would serve the Northeast Redevelopment Area. “This would get more land into [commercial] production to generate the additional taxes” the city needs, he noted.

Other council members also indicated support for using some car-tab revenue for such an off-ramp. And Councilwoman Lucy Krakowiak endorsed using a $20 fee to pay for asphalt overlays with leftover funds going to the off-ramp.

Martin informed council members that license tab fees could be designated for the off-ramp as well as for the overlay program at the time a TBD is established.

So…what do YOU think? Please take our Poll below, or leave a Comment…

Burien’s proposed vehicle license fee went down to a resounding defeat (75% voted no) NOT because voters don’t think sidewalks and bike routes are good things.

It went down because it was wrong-headed.

Regardless of the resounding defeat, the city council still has the power to impose a $20 annual license fee without voter approval. Will the council defy the voters to impose this fee anyway?

And don’t forget, any neighborhood in need of improvements can form a Local Improvement District (LID) to assess itself for street improvements (the city will help with that). Broad improvements are obviously a responsibility of the larger community (check your City Light bill for the costs of undergrounding utilities in the First Avenue improvement area).

I believe the residents, voters and taxpayers (not always the same people) of Burien want a shiny, people friendly community. I believe Burien voters and taxpayers (often the same people) are not selfish, stingy, or mean-spirited. I believe the taxpayers (including those most able to pay) of Burien appreciate their obligation to the greater good of the community. We are not all about ourselves.

Later this year, the city council may be talking about a possible general property tax increase in 2010. Perhaps it was thoughtless to schedule that discussion with a revenue increase lurking on the current ballot. Having lost the current measure, the council should take some time to reconnect with the community. With 3 of 4 council seats uncontested in this election, there is a disconnect.

I am confident the people of Burien are supportive of maintaining quality public services; provided the council is clear about the need, has implemented noticeable and substantive cost-reduction and efficiency strategies, and sticks to the basics like the rest of us.

Everyone who lives in Burien is our neighbor and we are our brother’s keeper. We should all pitch in to make sure we have the community we want. Please get out and sweep the streets to keep the drains clear. Thank you.

- Stephen Lamphear

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by Joe Fitzgibbon

The residents of Burien will have the opportunity this November to vote YES for investments in bicycle and pedestrian facilities. For the price of a half tank of gas, we can make our city safer for our kids and families walking and biking.

As The B-Town Blog has previously reported, a YES vote on the Transportation Benefit District and the proposed $25 vehicle license fee will enable the City of Burien build bicycle lanes, provide safer connections to schools, and repair inadequate sidewalks to increase the mobility of our seniors. I hope you will join me in voting YES to approve this levy to make our city safer for pedestrians and bicyclists.

Over 400 Burien residents helped shape what we want our city to look like through the Bike and Pedestrian Master Plans. All agreed that our city would be a better place if people could easily get around on two feet or two wheels. Since then, the city has completed some projects, but our progress has slowed because of the competing demands on the city budget — roads, parks, and public safety.

A YES vote on the Sidewalks and Bikes Levy will enable the city to keep moving ahead with some of the highest priority projects from the Pedestrian and Bicycle Facilities Master Plan–specifically, improvements to S and SW 136th St and 8th Ave S.

This is a great time for us to tackle these improvements. Construction projects are coming in under budget because demand for residential construction has declined. It is likely that we won’t ever be able to build these projects more cheaply than we are able to right now.

The benefits of better pedestrian and bike infrastructure are numerous and include improved home value, making students safer, and saving school districts money that can instead be used for teaching. It can save you money too. It reduces emissions and makes our air cleaner. It encourages healthy and active lifestyles.

Opponents suggest the cost of improving pedestrian and bicyclist safety is too high and this is not the right time to make our streets safer for walkers and bikers like students at Kennedy High School and Cedarhurst Elementary.

I disagree. The cost of this investment is less than seven cents a day, per vehicle. We must not sacrifice the safety of our children and our quality of life here in Burien.

And our community partners all agree; organizations including the American Heart Association, Washington Conservation Voters, and the 34th District Democrats have all endorsed the Sidewalks and Bikes Levy.

If you have any questions, please email me at safesidewalksnow@gmail.com. Let’s vote YES for a healthier and safer Burien!

(Joe Fitzgibbon is helping lead the Safe Sidewalks Now campaign and is the chair of the Burien Planning Commission).

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by Scott Schaefer

Here are notes from Monday night’s (July 20th) Burien City Council Study Session (PDF agenda here, streaming video link here):

Both Mayor Joan McGilton and Councilmember Kathy Keene were absent, but with five councilmembers remaining there was enough for a quorum, so Deputy Mayor Sue Blazak ran the meeting.

STEVE ROEHMER, BURIEN PARKS OPERATION & DEVELOPMENT MANAGER:
Roehmer presented a Powerpoint about the new “Urban Forestry Plan” and outlined the Desired Outcomes:

• Hire consultant for assessment & plan deve. Eagle Landing Park, Seahurst, Salmon Creek
• Establish & implement an associated invasives removal program
• Conduct tree plantings
• Provide for public input and access to resources developed
• Complete plan by Dec. 2009

PERFORMANCE MEASURES:

• Involve all stakeholders, including volunteers
• Facilitate w/proven professionals (has already hired Seattle Urban Nature)
• Develop management & restoration priorities adaptable to budget & operational realities
• Inventory of existing habitat types, tree density & % cover by species type
• Locations of invasive species
• GIS data layers
• Vegetative Management Plan & habitat mapping (for Eagle Land Pk & Salmon Creek)0, approx 100 acres being targeted

KEY PLANNING COMPONENTS:

• Site location & context
• Forest assessment methodology
• Property-wide results & findings, including details inventory of species & habitat types
• Zone specific results & management recommendations
• Short & long term by zone & flexible

Most focus appears to be aimed at Eagle Landing Park, and Roehmer said that all details gathered “will be accessible online.”

Councimember Lucy Krakowiak expressed her excitement and thanked him, recommending Dottie Harper Park be included as well.

Vote was 4-1 to approve the Urban Forestry Plan.

PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED ORD. #516 ON THE TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT DISTRICT:
Jenn Ramirez Robson, Management Analyst, presented the Transportation Benefit District (TBD) proposal. The TBD would be created solely for improvement of transportation in Burien, and a $25 license fee would be put on the Nov. 3rd ballot.

This tax would apply only to current residents, not annexed ones, for bicycle & pedestrian improvements for two areas of  Burien:

1. 8th Avenue South (S. 128th Street to S. 136th Street), next to Cedarhurst School; currently no sidewalk there.
2. SW and S. 136th Street (from Ambaum Boulevard to 1st Ave South and 1st Ave South to Des Moines Memorial Drive): bike lanes on both sides, make sidewalk ADA compliant.

Robson said that in 2004 over 400 residents participated in a process that recommended a Bicycles Facilities Plan, with over 20 high-priority pedestrian and bike projects identified.

According to the 2008 Burien Community Survey, a “majority of respondents” felt there is a need for more sidewalks and bike paths in their neighborhoods.

Aso of July 2008, the state of Washington allows cities to designate a TBD to fund transportation improvements.

The City Council would create a TBD, which would be funded via the $25 fee for 2 years; if not approved Nov. 3rd, said TBD is dissolved.

Timeline would be:

• Aug. 3rd TBD meeting to place ballot measure on Nov. 3rd ballot for Aug. 11th deadline
• Nov. 3rd election within current Burien boundaries vote on $25 fee for 2 year TBD program.

At 7:25pm the public hearing was opened for comment; here are some highlights of citizen comments:

Bruce Rambau suggested a “wheels tax” on Burien city employees’ salaries; he then asked how many city employees actually live in Burien;’ “why not make everyone who comes here to work pay for the upkeep of the roads?” “I don’t think it would be that offensive…if you wanna play you gotta pay.”

Don Warren spoke about how he worked on the original bikes & pedestrian plan as well as helped identify areas that Robson presented earlier. He thought that taxing people in cars for benefit of bikes & pedestrians “isn’t the best idea”; other ways would be to tox just those who use it. He supports the two projects, but to have a TBD assessment during “tough times” might not be popular, this is not a “must have” project but “it’d be nice to have.”

Chestine Edgar referenced the 2008 study and said “only 20% identified bike paths as a critical issue.” Edgar frequently challenged the report, saying “or perhaps I read it incorrectly.” She also felt that the information in the agenda was not complete, and proceeded to listed five changes. She also referenced recent cost overruns on construction on First Ave South and SW 152nd. “This city has some really large bills that it has to pay”; “including a $14 million bill to Westmark – how will that be paid?” Spoke about annexation, which will run $3 million in the red, with no cost breakdowns; “I am concerned when I see these proposals come forth, there is no real analysis of the costs and whether we can afford it.”

Roger Dorn agreed with Edgar and spoke of how he has to maintain the sidewalk in front of his house in Sumner. “Why should residents be taxed for this?” “I’m personally tired of being taxed more and more.”

Joe Fitzgibbon spoke in support, thinks $25 fee is reasonable request, works out to less than .7 cents per day per vehicle. Kids will be safe walking to school, families without cars will be safer & people who do have cars may leave them behind to ride their bikes.

CITY MANAGER’S REPORT FROM MIKE MARTIN:

• Visited Water Dist. 20 reservoir which serves the North Highline area.
• On 7/14 city staff hosted an Annexation Open House; they’re now seeing a “tapering off” of attendees (was 60-70 per forum), not sure how to interpret that (EDITOR’S IDEA: bring back crummy weather dude, it’s summer!). Wed. 7/29 6:30pm is the next forum at city hall mostly “for our own residents.”
• A couple weeks ago when power was lost in the downtown area, the communication between Burien & City Light was done “poorly”l turns out that Burien wasn’t on a “special list” of agencies that get phone calls from them; Martin also felt that City Light was “unapologetic about it.” “In the future we’ll have a lot better direct communication, but now that we have a low-watt radio station (540AM) which should help get informationout, 85% of our residents could get that communication.” “I’m pleased to report that incrementally we’re improving communication issues…”
• Vandalism in the new Town Square Park on four pieces of art that were damaged or stolen; the city is still trying to figure out what their response will be to that. “We have a number of issues with the new park and the B/ IAS park also”; “We want to have a lot more public art.”
• The 4th of July was “the best in the three years I’ve been here” and while there were still illegal fireworks, it wasn’t as bad as previous years; Martin attributes this to getting the word out that fireworks are illegal in city, and that police can give out citations. He also spoke about how the city “strategically irrigated our parks in the evening”; “we were pleased about that and I hope it continues.”
• Jan Vogee was cited for winning an award for helping develop elecrical code by the Washington Associaciton of Building Officials.

Councilmember Gordon Shaw spoke:

• He mentioned that the Water Dist. 20 tour would’ve “been nice to visit” but that he wasn’t told about it. “Hopefully sometime later that will be made part of Burien.”
• With regard to the low watt radio station, Shaw, apparently never having tuned it in, asked “What is on it when there’s no emergency?”; Martin replied that there’s a 20 minute loop of announcements that can be altered via computer.

Rose Clark spoke about:

• A residents’ letter regarding Port of Seattle 3rd runway noise monitoring. She wants the city council to “write a letter to the Port asking that a noise monitor be placed in this neighborhood.”

STEPHANIE JEWETT, CITY PLANNER:
Jewett spoke about a zoning map for a subdivision of 8 homes which would remove all buildings on the lot.

5-0 was vote to approve it.

TBD public comments were then discussed:

• Sally Nelson talked about cost overruns and how they’d be addressed; Marting replied that contingency funds are “built into the TBD estimates”;
• Shaw thinks some of the funding may come from federal stimulus funding
• Martin said that’s “very unlikely”
• Shaw then cited that 21st Ave SW has much less sidewalk than SW 136th and that there may be other places where this money could be used; he then expressed that he’s opposed to the TBD.
• Blazak then said she supports the idea, was involved in planning process, and this is one of the reasons she wanted to be on the city council.
• Krakowiak also supports the TBD.

Vote was 4-1 approving the TBD. It appears that the next steps will be:

• Aug. 3rd TBD meeting to place ballot measure on Nov. 3rd ballot for Aug. 11th deadline.
• Nov. 3rd election within current Burien boundaries vote on $25 fee for 2 year TBD program.

A “Transportation Benefit District” (TBD) is being proposed by the City of Burien, which will be holding a public meeting on Monday, July 20th at 7pm on the first floor of Burien City Hall.

Cityfolk are proposing that the new TBD focuses on funding transportation improvements within the city, like new sidewalks and bike paths. If approved, it would authorize an independent city-wide taxing area to pay for certain sidewalk and road improvements.

According to the city’s website:

What does a Transportation Benefit District do?
According to the Burien Community Survey conducted in 2008, the majority of respondents felt there is a need for more sidewalks and bike paths in their neighborhood.

As of last year, the State of Washington allows cities to designate a Transportation Benefit District (or “TBD”) to fund transportation improvements within a city.

In 2004 the City of Burien adopted a Burien Pedestrian and Bicycle Facilities Plan. This plan was a result of a community planning process that included input and ideas from over 400 participants. Over twenty high-priority pedestrian and bicycle facility projects were identified. Several of those projects have already been completed, however, funding to do more is lacking.

With many pulls on the city budget and future funding uncertain, the City of Burien is placing a “Transportation Benefit District” measure on the general election ballot this November that would fund two high-priority projects from the Burien Pedestrian and Bicycle Facilities Plan. The City Council selected these two projects in order to serve areas of the city that have not benefited from recent improvement projects.  The funding would be generated through a $25 annual vehicle license fee that would be in effect for two years.

PROJECT SPECIFICS:

8th Avenue South (S. 128th Street to S. 136th Street)

• Construct a minimum 8-foot wide multi-purpose facility* on one side of 8th Avenue South
• Provides safer connection to Cedarhurst Elementary School
• Connects to east-west facility on South 136th Street
• Connect with future facilities for the Northeast Redevelopment Area.

*Multi-purpose facility: A concrete paved path intended for use by cyclists as well as pedestrians.

SW and S. 136th Street (from Ambaum Boulevard to 1st Ave South and 1st Ave South to Des Moines Memorial Drive)

• Bicycle lane on both sides
• Repair inadequate and non-ADA portions of existing sidewalk
• Connects major community facilities, including Seahurst Park, Chelsea Park, North SeaTac Park, Senior Center facility and soccer field
• Connects with existing facility on 4th Avenue SW
• Connects east through SeaTac to Green River Trail and light rail station
• Connects east to North SeaTac Park Community Center, Central Washington University Branch Campus, and Tukwila schools.
• Connects to planned facilities on 8th Avenue South and Des Moines Memorial Drive South

How will the City keep the community up to date on progress?
By law, Transportation Benefit Districts are required to provide annual reports to the community. These annual reports would show:

• Project status
• Expenditures and revenues
• Construction schedules

If a TBD is in place, the City must also hold a public hearing to resolve any transportation cost issues, in the event costs exceed the original project estimate by more than 20 percent.

So…what do YOU think of the idea of a TBD? Please Comment or Vote below in our poll: