<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Vandals Damage Sculptures At Burien Town Square Park; Reward Offered For Information</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/</link>
	<description>Local Burien News, Events, Entertainment, Listings, Music, Videos &#38; More</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:20:35 -0700</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: b-town_fan</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-17572</link>
		<dc:creator>b-town_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-17572</guid>
		<description>You do not need cameras - you need the best vandalism deterrent -- people.  Vandals do their thing in areas that are isolated. They are way  less likely to vandalize if they think there is risk that they will be caught by someone else. If the condos  fill up and the businesses open there will be way more people around that area to see and call the cops when that kind of thing is happening..  What was dumb was for the art to be installed in the area while it is still so  isolated. The thing is, like those condos or not, they&#039;re there to stay.  The best thing that can happen now is for them to fill up.  The worst thing would be for them to stay vacant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do not need cameras &#8211; you need the best vandalism deterrent &#8212; people.  Vandals do their thing in areas that are isolated. They are way  less likely to vandalize if they think there is risk that they will be caught by someone else. If the condos  fill up and the businesses open there will be way more people around that area to see and call the cops when that kind of thing is happening..  What was dumb was for the art to be installed in the area while it is still so  isolated. The thing is, like those condos or not, they&#8217;re there to stay.  The best thing that can happen now is for them to fill up.  The worst thing would be for them to stay vacant.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Maxine</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16329</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16329</guid>
		<description>Peter, can you tell me precisely where the ghetto you are referring to is in Burien?  Or do you think all of Burien is a ghetto?

Below are some dictionary definitions of ghetto:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto
1: a quarter of a city in which Jews were formerly required to live
2: a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure
3 a: an isolated group &lt;a&gt; b: a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity &lt;the pink-collar ghetto
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ghetto
1. A usually poor section of a city inhabited primarily by people of the same race, religion, or social background, often because of discrimination.
2. An often walled quarter in a European city to which Jews were restricted beginning in the Middle Ages.
3. Something that resembles the restriction or isolation of a city ghetto:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, can you tell me precisely where the ghetto you are referring to is in Burien?  Or do you think all of Burien is a ghetto?</p>
<p>Below are some dictionary definitions of ghetto:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto" rel="nofollow">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto</a><br />
1: a quarter of a city in which Jews were formerly required to live<br />
2: a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure<br />
3 a: an isolated group <a> b: a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity &lt;the pink-collar ghetto<br />
</a><a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ghetto" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ghetto</a><br />
1. A usually poor section of a city inhabited primarily by people of the same race, religion, or social background, often because of discrimination.<br />
2. An often walled quarter in a European city to which Jews were restricted beginning in the Middle Ages.<br />
3. Something that resembles the restriction or isolation of a city ghetto:</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16328</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16328</guid>
		<description>Several things to be said:

The Sheriffs Compound is right across the street from the site of the vandalism ... not a dig, just ironic; they certainly have enough going on to keep their hands full versus the staffing level. I do think it would be a VERY good idea to consider a &#039;beat cop&#039; scenario for the downtown in general but it would not be cost effective use of the officers involved for what Burien is will to pay for.

That brings up a retro segue...how did we get art and the acreage to put it on in the first place? 

The vaunted City Council with seeming delusions of grandeur and a penchant for spending we might say. For all of the foolishness in &quot;our downtown core&quot; i.e. 152nd/153rd starting with the epoxy grouted brick crosswalks for big bucks which were then mostly ripped out to create a Fonzi/ Happy Days movie set out of 152nd complete with passé&#039; and dangerous diagonal parking, faux cast-iron look-alike aluminum street fixtures (with sodium-vapor lamps, no less! ) and folly of follies, an arch over the east approach from 1st Ave. that is generally unreadable ( even the Council could not bring themselves to put it up in lights!) 

And in general about the whole of the &quot;development&quot; : who in their right mind would pay $750,000 to sit in the middle of THAT !!?( now knocked down to only half-a-million !)

...It&#039;s best and most useful feature is the new fire hall and Emergency./Disaster Response center.

If from the beginning of Incorporation we would have had a much more well considered plan for the benefit of  this Community as a WHOLE and reached by consensus it could have been quire wonderful, but instead, we seem to have let a bunch of people with NO apparent common sense take over and they shortsightedly continue to serve only themselves.

Indeed the Vandalism is a Community problem, and not so much about individuals involved, otherwise we would already know who they were and who there families are and so forth. 
There is not much community here in Burien anymore; it has become quite cliquish and isolated by ‘neighborhoods’ and income levels, not very cosmopolitan.
Ask yourself this, what can we do in our Community  to muster cohesion and inclusiveness and how can you help to accomplish this. Be an ambassador for yor community everyday; be nosy,.. get to know your neighbors… bake ‘em a cake ! mow their lawn! Shake their hand !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several things to be said:</p>
<p>The Sheriffs Compound is right across the street from the site of the vandalism &#8230; not a dig, just ironic; they certainly have enough going on to keep their hands full versus the staffing level. I do think it would be a VERY good idea to consider a &#8216;beat cop&#8217; scenario for the downtown in general but it would not be cost effective use of the officers involved for what Burien is will to pay for.</p>
<p>That brings up a retro segue&#8230;how did we get art and the acreage to put it on in the first place? </p>
<p>The vaunted City Council with seeming delusions of grandeur and a penchant for spending we might say. For all of the foolishness in &#8220;our downtown core&#8221; i.e. 152nd/153rd starting with the epoxy grouted brick crosswalks for big bucks which were then mostly ripped out to create a Fonzi/ Happy Days movie set out of 152nd complete with passé&#8217; and dangerous diagonal parking, faux cast-iron look-alike aluminum street fixtures (with sodium-vapor lamps, no less! ) and folly of follies, an arch over the east approach from 1st Ave. that is generally unreadable ( even the Council could not bring themselves to put it up in lights!) </p>
<p>And in general about the whole of the &#8220;development&#8221; : who in their right mind would pay $750,000 to sit in the middle of THAT !!?( now knocked down to only half-a-million !)</p>
<p>&#8230;It&#8217;s best and most useful feature is the new fire hall and Emergency./Disaster Response center.</p>
<p>If from the beginning of Incorporation we would have had a much more well considered plan for the benefit of  this Community as a WHOLE and reached by consensus it could have been quire wonderful, but instead, we seem to have let a bunch of people with NO apparent common sense take over and they shortsightedly continue to serve only themselves.</p>
<p>Indeed the Vandalism is a Community problem, and not so much about individuals involved, otherwise we would already know who they were and who there families are and so forth.<br />
There is not much community here in Burien anymore; it has become quite cliquish and isolated by ‘neighborhoods’ and income levels, not very cosmopolitan.<br />
Ask yourself this, what can we do in our Community  to muster cohesion and inclusiveness and how can you help to accomplish this. Be an ambassador for yor community everyday; be nosy,.. get to know your neighbors… bake ‘em a cake ! mow their lawn! Shake their hand !</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tcb</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16327</link>
		<dc:creator>Tcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16327</guid>
		<description>Peter says:
July 14, 2009 at 6:57 pm
It’s a shame, but only a matter of time. Burien’s doing its best to put a new face on, but it will remain ghetto. Sorry, but that’s reality for this area. I wish it wasn’t. You can put lipstick on a pig…..

Why is this area &quot;Ghetto&quot;? Is it that you&#039;re a bigot against the average income person being lower than up north or is it because you&#039;re a bigot because the area is diverse? I think you need to understand that your &quot;reality&quot; is not REALITY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter says:<br />
July 14, 2009 at 6:57 pm<br />
It’s a shame, but only a matter of time. Burien’s doing its best to put a new face on, but it will remain ghetto. Sorry, but that’s reality for this area. I wish it wasn’t. You can put lipstick on a pig…..</p>
<p>Why is this area &#8220;Ghetto&#8221;? Is it that you&#8217;re a bigot against the average income person being lower than up north or is it because you&#8217;re a bigot because the area is diverse? I think you need to understand that your &#8220;reality&#8221; is not REALITY.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Maxine</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16281</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16281</guid>
		<description>I think when more people are actually living in the Town Square condos it will likely reduce the vandalism problems because there will be people around all the time to call the police if they see anything amiss.  The police simply cannot be in all places at all times and cameras are only part of a solution.  As others have noted, all of us need to get involved in do what we can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think when more people are actually living in the Town Square condos it will likely reduce the vandalism problems because there will be people around all the time to call the police if they see anything amiss.  The police simply cannot be in all places at all times and cameras are only part of a solution.  As others have noted, all of us need to get involved in do what we can.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16276</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16276</guid>
		<description>so, i hate tothink when you see someone on the street you think is ugly...move on and get out of our town LOSER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, i hate tothink when you see someone on the street you think is ugly&#8230;move on and get out of our town LOSER!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16275</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16275</guid>
		<description>i totally agree we need camera&#039;s put up in the town square. my only question is what did u think was gonna happen when a nice and beautiful town gets notice ? the punks come out and do there thing... crap maybe cameras up in all burien is not a bad idea, crap i love this town and we don&#039;t need some thugs destroying it....we need to police our town!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally agree we need camera&#8217;s put up in the town square. my only question is what did u think was gonna happen when a nice and beautiful town gets notice ? the punks come out and do there thing&#8230; crap maybe cameras up in all burien is not a bad idea, crap i love this town and we don&#8217;t need some thugs destroying it&#8230;.we need to police our town!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Maxine</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16272</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16272</guid>
		<description>Christine, 
It is my understanding that policy regarding home burglar alarms was instituted by the Burien City Council, so please don&#039;t blame the police for that.  What I&#039;ve been told is that in the contractual agreement with the Sheriff&#039;s Office for our police services, the Council decided to not have our police officers respond to alarms to save the City some money.  Therefore this is a policy established by the Council and simply implemented by the police, not something the police decided to do.  I highly recommend that you email the Burien Councilmembers and let them know how you feel about the policy of not responding to home burglar alarms.  Here&#039;s their email address  council@burienwa.gov</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine,<br />
It is my understanding that policy regarding home burglar alarms was instituted by the Burien City Council, so please don&#8217;t blame the police for that.  What I&#8217;ve been told is that in the contractual agreement with the Sheriff&#8217;s Office for our police services, the Council decided to not have our police officers respond to alarms to save the City some money.  Therefore this is a policy established by the Council and simply implemented by the police, not something the police decided to do.  I highly recommend that you email the Burien Councilmembers and let them know how you feel about the policy of not responding to home burglar alarms.  Here&#8217;s their email address  <a href="mailto:council@burienwa.gov">council@burienwa.gov</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16261</link>
		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16261</guid>
		<description>whether it be art, a picnic area, a park bench, or a memorial stone; there is no place for vandalism; it is a shame. it is a poor demonstration of one’s self.

i&#039;m not sure if cameras would do much other than to drive the vandals to an unmonitored area. really, they are just a band-aid solution.

we, as a community, need to find the underlying reasons for the vandalism. it might be a little judgmental, but i&#039;m taking a wild guess that most vandals are in their teens to early twenties. has burien given enough for their youth to be occupied? have community members embraced enough youth?

i like &quot;jays&quot; comment about law enforcement. but the reality is that burien isn&#039;t the law enforcements neighborhood; it is ours. we need to take back our neighborhood.

the easiest way to do this is simply be present. take a walk, talk to people, say hi to the kids skating boarding and hanging around [after all, they are burien’s biggest asset], participate is community activities, mentor a community kid, etc.

i could go on and on about how we can make this a better neighborhood for us all, but the reality is that we have to want the change. we have to want change enough to have to do something for it. if you want change, you have to make change. nothing will change if you sit on your couch and merely hope that your car doesn’t get broken into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whether it be art, a picnic area, a park bench, or a memorial stone; there is no place for vandalism; it is a shame. it is a poor demonstration of one’s self.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not sure if cameras would do much other than to drive the vandals to an unmonitored area. really, they are just a band-aid solution.</p>
<p>we, as a community, need to find the underlying reasons for the vandalism. it might be a little judgmental, but i&#8217;m taking a wild guess that most vandals are in their teens to early twenties. has burien given enough for their youth to be occupied? have community members embraced enough youth?</p>
<p>i like &#8220;jays&#8221; comment about law enforcement. but the reality is that burien isn&#8217;t the law enforcements neighborhood; it is ours. we need to take back our neighborhood.</p>
<p>the easiest way to do this is simply be present. take a walk, talk to people, say hi to the kids skating boarding and hanging around [after all, they are burien’s biggest asset], participate is community activities, mentor a community kid, etc.</p>
<p>i could go on and on about how we can make this a better neighborhood for us all, but the reality is that we have to want the change. we have to want change enough to have to do something for it. if you want change, you have to make change. nothing will change if you sit on your couch and merely hope that your car doesn’t get broken into.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.b-townblog.com/2009/07/14/vandals-damage-sculptures-at-burien-town-square-park-reward-offered-for-information/comment-page-1/#comment-16259</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.b-townblog.com/?p=8480#comment-16259</guid>
		<description>Until the community can control our existing issues, I don&#039;t think we should be annexing more area. I moved here last year because Burien has become a great place to live.

It isn&#039;t surprising that we have these problems though. Our police won&#039;t even respond to home burglar alarms! It is against the rules to even have one that can be heard from the outside of your home without paying for private security to respond to them. 

What sort of message is this sending to the local criminals? Our police just don&#039;t care to protect us or our stuff is what is sounds like to me....not much incentive to keep the criminals out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until the community can control our existing issues, I don&#8217;t think we should be annexing more area. I moved here last year because Burien has become a great place to live.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t surprising that we have these problems though. Our police won&#8217;t even respond to home burglar alarms! It is against the rules to even have one that can be heard from the outside of your home without paying for private security to respond to them. </p>
<p>What sort of message is this sending to the local criminals? Our police just don&#8217;t care to protect us or our stuff is what is sounds like to me&#8230;.not much incentive to keep the criminals out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
